RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by ChrisMWilliams, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. acgclone

    acgclone Well-Known Member

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    Having less spots to fill is a good thing. It's easier for Fred to swing for the fences with only two spots open next year (realistically it could be 3 if someone transfers).

    Our strategy is recruit HS players that can make an instant impact, and fill in with transfers who are already proven.

    It's a great strategy actually.
     
  2. ripvdub

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    That story from CW just makes this all seem a lil fishy. I know there are backdoor deals done all the time, you just never hear about them.
     
  3. Goldfinger

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    Calm down, these guys are on another level and will be tough gets. Diallo is a top ten recruit, who can go anywhere. Ellenson is also a top level big man, with a recent Duke offer among others. Ahmad and dad seem infatuated with big ten schools, plans visits to Michigan and MSU without an offer, and is waiting for OSu to offer. I love Niang, Morris, Thomas, Custer, they look to be great gets, but none were as highly recruited as Diallo, Ellenson, and we'll see if Ahmad moves up in rankings with this AAU season.
     
  4. Cydkar

    Cydkar Well-Known Member

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    Expand please.
     
  5. mattyice

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    But never ever ever OUR team right?
     
  6. ribsnwhiskey

    ribsnwhiskey Well-Known Member

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    You are clueless.
     
  7. Goldfinger

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    good grief, have a nice day
     
  8. ribsnwhiskey

    ribsnwhiskey Well-Known Member

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    Good grief.
     
  9. mattyice

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    Im not agreeing or disagreeing.....but how is he wrong in his post?

    Are those guys NOT elite players and highly touted recruits that will be difficult to get given the competition?
     
  10. swarthmoreCY

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    Which is what I was getting at. At a certain level I think fans, myself included, get caught up in winning recruiting, even though it may not mean a better shot of winning basketball games. Imo being hung-up on the staff not getting enough elite prep guys is a sign of that. Why does it matter if the staff has found a pond with big fish that less people fish at? I think some here would be more excited for an unknown high school guy that we beat Duke for, the next Matt Jones, than getting a good transfer from Duke that had proven to be a good college player.
     
  11. BryceC

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    They have struggled to get their high school targets. However as we have seen it doesn't really matter.
     
  12. CycloneErik

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    I think the "no hurrry" thing is just something you say to sound like you're keeping all options open and thinking things through, even though Cooke sounds like he's thought things through already.
     
  13. CycloneWarrior

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    #93 CycloneWarrior, Apr 29, 2014
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    He has a point. Niang, Thomas, morris and even custer for this argument may have been four stars, but they had no where near the level of offers that guys like Diallo, ellenson, rashad vaughn and other big time guys we've missed out on.

    Niang: isu, bama, charlotte, delaware, fau, george mason, hofstra, iowa, umass, miami, northeastern, providence, sienna, texas a&m

    Thomas:isu, boston college, colorado state, creighton, wisc-greenbay, marquette, minn, nebraska, uni, northwestern, virginia, wisconsin

    morris: isu, Arizona state, cincinnati, georgia tech, princeton, providence, rhode island, usc, western michigan

    custer: isu, houston, kstate, oklahoma, okie state, san francisco, south carolina, tulsa

    red were tournament teams this year and yes Iowa counts...

    We hardly beat out the kansas' and duke's of the world to get these four guys. Of course there are exceptions to these guys, i.e. Woodbury to UNC. The best offers were matt thomas' to wisconsin and virginia. Morris didn't even have an offer from michigan or michigan state (yes, I remember michigan pulled their offer once walton committed).

    They are awesome players and are very good, but guys like Vaughn and Diallo are on different levels. It's a little bit different if you beat out Duke, Kansas or Kentucky rather than the high majority that we did for these guys. Fortunately, we recruit transfers like nobody's business, so this high school recruiting garbage doesn't even matter. Lolololol Free agency snitches!!!!!
     
  14. acgclone

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    I agree. Kids want to keep their options open in case they don't like their visit, or teammates, etc. I don't read too much into these type of comments. Many kids, transfers or otherwise, say they are going to take all their visits, and then 2 days later commit.
     
  15. swarthmoreCY

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    And none are local. Are you surprised a kid in Ohio will be tough to get over Big 10 schools or is waiting for an OSU offer? These guys are low odds for any school, let alone one from Iowa with less success than the local schools and without the glamour of the non-local bluebloods.
     
  16. swarthmoreCY

    swarthmoreCY Well-Known Member

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    What?
     
  17. 4theCYcle

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    So you're telling me you are going to pass on a kid who has proven himself as a freshman at the collegiate level (8 ppg/46% 3P%), has NBA potential and people talking with 3 years eligibility over unproven Seniors in HS? We aren't even leading, that we know of, on any of these kids. Don't get me wrong, Fred needs to land a high impact Mcd AA sometime, but he's proving the transfer route is working very effectively versus spending 1-4 years on kids who, lets be honest, aren't always making the best decisions in life at that age. There was a lot of time spent on Vaughn and look how that turned out. How much time/money was allocated towards BDJ?

    Fred and company got on Cooke early for a reason. You passing means you don't trust Fred. Blasphemy.
     
  18. AdamJGray

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    Let's keep it civil fellas.
     
  19. Goldfinger

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    I agree 100% with you, that is the struggle we still face.
     
  20. swarthmoreCY

    swarthmoreCY Well-Known Member

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    Good thing the goal is not winning at high school recruiting. Until it is, I think the staff is doing near an optimal job. Priority number 1 imo is getting the elite transfers. They likely will have bigger impacts than OAD guys. If we finish out with Cooke and Anderson, this offseason will have been a step towards that. Even if we could get 5-stars, I would still want to get the same amount of transfers as we do now.
     

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