Pollard has now hired 2 National Championship caliber coaches

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  1. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    Anyone still doubt the high quality of our AD? Two of his hires have now won National Championships. Granted, not with ISU, but unless you're going to blame him for the respective departures, I think it shows his ability to evaluate top notch coaching talent.

    Granted, no one is perfect but that is Creighton's problem now.
     
  2. TitanClone

    TitanClone Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.

    But, an argument can easily be made that he simply went with the "sexy" hires at the time.
     
  3. Chipper

    Chipper Well-Known Member

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    I've seen it all now.
     
  4. Cy's Taxi

    Cy's Taxi Well-Known Member

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    It's true. Both were good hires. I still hate them both for leaving us, but not much we can do about it now.
     
  5. cloneswereall

    cloneswereall Well-Known Member

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    He also drove one off by not giving much thought into giving wrestling the money and facilities it deserves at ISU.
     
  6. Drive4cy

    Drive4cy Well-Known Member

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    Of course JP is a solid AD. I'm not pleased with how our men's basketball program was crumbling under his watch but that's just me.

    I was on board with Chizik. I still feel he would have had success here after he fired his buddy coordinators.
     
  7. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what that means...considering they both proved to be more than just "sexy" hires. They were legit, big-time coaches that have reached levels reserved for just the best of the best.
     
  8. Chipper

    Chipper Well-Known Member

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    Just not at Iowa State.
     
  9. RING4CY

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    Until those national championships are won at Iowa State, hiring Chizik and Sanderson do not add to the quality of Jamie Pollard.
     
  10. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    Is the sport a positive source to / or negative drain on what is one of the smallest athletic budgets in the Big 12?
     
  11. ketelmeister

    ketelmeister Well-Known Member

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    What? When he left Cael was the highest paid coach in the country! ISU gives plenty to wrestling, maybe more than it deserves.
     
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  12. kingcy

    kingcy Well-Known Member

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    Than why can Cael go win a national title in 2 years at a school that hasnt won one in 60. He never could get the athletes to Ames for whatever reason.

    I do feel Cael is better off not being in Iowa's shadow. He doesnt have to compete and lose the best wrestlers in the state to a for whatever reason bigger name coach.
     
  13. cloneswereall

    cloneswereall Well-Known Member

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    And when every other coach talked to him about staying here there was no time to make a counter-offer to what PSU had? And saying that building a wrestling facility was out of the question or not possible when all he was looking for was support for the program? yea, those are outlandish assumptions and requests to make when you bring ISU the first wrestling championships it's had in a long time.

    If he wanted to keep Cael or had respect for the program, he would have done one of two things: 1, made a counter offer; or 2, said that he would work on upgrading the wrestling facilities.
     
  14. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    So, you're going to go down the road that he should never have hired Sanderson? Really?
     
  15. cloneswereall

    cloneswereall Well-Known Member

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    Creating a jumping pad for good coaches isn't exactly a feather in your cap either.
     
  16. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    Where was the $$$$ going to come from?
     
  17. cloneswereall

    cloneswereall Well-Known Member

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    And the money for the new scoreboard and bowling in the endzone are coming from where?

    You ask, and appropriate funds right, things can be done.
     
  18. Chipper

    Chipper Well-Known Member

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    Maybe why Cael wasn't seeing it. Trice got their renovations and before any talk of money into the wrestling program more talk of further football improvements came.
     
  19. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying he should never have hired him? How does that go over with the wrestling fanbase at ISU? You're telling me Pollard doesn't get blamed for losing the next Dan Gable? He can't win if he doesn't land Sanderson otherwise he goes off and wins somewhere else (i.e....Penn State or whereever) and Pollard is forever blamed for not doing what it took to give Sanderson his first coaching job.

    Now, at least, it turns out Sanderson was the one not commited to bring the title to ISU....not Pollard.
     
  20. Tre4ISU

    Tre4ISU Well-Known Member

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    Well, that's part of the reason we will have all the new football stuff. When you have a small budget like we do, there have to be sacrifices in certain departments and football is not where you cut them. I like wrestling but not enough to sacrifice anything for football.

    That's not true at all. Had he fired them then yes, but not under the scenerios they actually left. At one point he hired two coaches who won NCs. You can't say that doesn't give him some sort of credibility.

    That's BS. How many kids did Cael recruit or have at ISU that had a large amount of success at ISU or elswhere. There were quite a few. You put just a few of those guys on these past couple teams and things change.
     
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