Need a ruling: Okay or not?

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  1. im4cyclones

    im4cyclones Well-Known Member

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    #1 im4cyclones, Jun 6, 2014
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    I coach a girls youth soccer team. When our season was winding down, I asked my girls if they wanted to enter the Iowa Games. Come to find out another coach from my town already asked the two best players on my team. I happened to talk with a different coach after practice tonight and it happened to him too.

    It seems this guy is wanting to enter an "all-star" team so he is cherry-picking the good players from other team without even consulting their coaches. Is winning that important that he can't even say, "hey, I was going to invite player x to join my team" and at least see if I was thinking about entering my team. I realize he doesn't need my permission. But wouldn't that just be proper etiquette to ask?

    I am going to enter a team regardless and it really is about skill development and fun, regardless of how we do. But are we at that point when we have to go behind other coaches backs to assemble dream teams to win 10 year old division at the Iowa Games?

    I need a ruling from the peanut gallery... Is this ****** move outta' him or am I being overly sensitive?
     
  2. LindenCy

    LindenCy Keep and Pride - It works

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    I think he should have asked out of respect to other coaches, but technically he can do it it sounds like.
     
  3. cobraclone71

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    Today I learned children's soccer is serious business.

    But yeah, he should have asked.
     
  4. im4cyclones

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    He is allowed to do it. I guess I feel like this was underhanded and... douchy. Just want to see if I was out of line for feeling that way.
     
  5. enisthemenace

    enisthemenace Well-Known Member

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    I don't know. I think you have a right to be upset about it, but ultimately it's not just the other coach here. The parents decided to go with the other coach without talking to you about it too, right?
     
  6. CycloneErik

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    Seems rude, but soccer is a cutthroat world, I guess.
     
  7. CarlHungus

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    ****** move
     
  8. CYphyllis

    CYphyllis Well-Known Member

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    You mean he's putting together a travel team? Those have been around forever and will likely be the teams populating the Iowa Games. Unless the Iowa Games have changed drastically over the last twenty years, you may be in for a rude awakening if you sign up a recreational school team. Soccer is a lot of fun, getting your brains beaten in by 15 each game on the other hand is not.
     
  9. chuckd4735

    chuckd4735 Well-Known Member

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    I'm assuming he sucked at every sport in high school, and he is using these 10 year old girls to give him a sense of accomplishment.
     
  10. CyArob

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    There's 10 year old travel teams now?
     
  11. bwbauer

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    If there is a next year, I would ask the parents of the possibility earlier in the season.
     
  12. CYphyllis

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    Now? I started at U8. Being that I'm nearly 30 now, it's fair to say it's been around for quite awhile.

    It's not that most of these coaches are out there looking to achieve for themselves through these kids, it's that kids want to play with kids near their talent level.
     
  13. BleedCycloneRed

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    But as a former coach and parent of a pretty good player, I have seen both sides. One year when I was coaching, a fellow coach decided to put together a "ringer team" for the winter indoor season. Not so much as to win, but also to give the better players a chance to play with an entire team of player of similar talent. It gave the better playerskids a chance to play of each other, and not to have to be the stars that do every thing every game. I was asked if my son wanted to play (I was coaching his house league team at the time). Since I was not going to coach the team during the winter season (that was time to coach basketball), I was all for it. Most of the players ended up on the travel team a year or so later, and having had a chance to play together previously, it was a good thing.
    Could of the other coach handled it better, absolutely. But get used to it. Many a youth coach want to feed their ego by collecting the best athletes and pretending how great of a coach they are because they can win with superior talent. Enjoy the additional free time and get ready for the fall season (and Cyclone Football).
     
  14. pourcyne

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    > I am going to enter a team regardless and it really is about skill development and fun,

    This, my friend. If you really mean it, the rest has no importance.
     
  15. kilgore_trout

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    Is it really only "about skill development and fun"?

    Because if it isn't, I would stick it to that guys wife until she couldn't walk. And then I'd put it up on porntube.


     
  16. cyclonedave25

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    Did they say yes?
     
  17. Rabbuk

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    In the movies your team wins anyway.
     
  18. Cyclonesince78

    Cyclonesince78 Well-Known Member

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    The Miami Heat of girls soccer. That coach is a tool.
     
  19. 3TrueFans

    3TrueFans Well-Known Member

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    I coach youth soccer and from experience I know that at least 40% of youth soccer coaches, or probably any youth sports coaches, are douchebags who care less about development or fun and more about winning. Played a team last week and the other coach kept his 2 best players in the entire game, gotta win that U7 soccer game at all costs.
     
  20. CYphyllis

    CYphyllis Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing the vast majority in here never actually played soccer growing up. This is all extremely common. There are separate leagues and tournaments all over the place for teams like this. All the guy is doing is putting together a competitive team so the more talented kids get a chance to play more soccer against much better competition. It's fun. There's nothing shady or dirty about it.

    And no, I'm not a coach. I don't even like kids.
     

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