BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

**ISU_phoria** · 11-20-2012, 12:25 PM

Didn't see this posted. Is the BIG selling their soul?

Could Boston College and Virginia be the next to join the Big Ten? - Land-Grant Holy Land

**kberyldial** · 11-20-2012, 12:31 PM

Adding more crappy teams, way to go Delany. Keep diluting the already bad product. Has anyone ever asked the question, "even with all the tv sets in these areas - do the ad dollars keep coming in when no one is watching?"

**cyclones500** · 11-20-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by kberyldial

Adding more crappy teams, way to go Delany. Keep diluting the already bad product. Has anyone ever asked the question, "even with all the tv sets in these areas - do the ad dollars keep coming in when no one is watching?"

Big 10 should've taken a unique approach to expansion: B1G and B1G Jr.

Keep the original 10 for the main, anchor the secondary version w/ Nebraska and Penn State, and add 8 more prospects drawn from a hat.

... who knows, maybe that's actually the plan ...

**alarson** · 11-20-2012, 12:37 PM

Not boston college. Id bet if they go to 16 its VA and UNC

**The_Architect** · 11-20-2012, 12:37 PM

16 team Super Conferences are happening. Screw regional rivalries and screw the fans.

This sucks for everyone except the money hungry administrators.

**CyJack13** · 11-20-2012, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by kberyldial

Adding more crappy teams, way to go Delany. Keep diluting the already bad product. Has anyone ever asked the question, "even with all the tv sets in these areas - do the ad dollars keep coming in when no one is watching?"

The vast, vast majority of the money BTN makes isn't from ad dollars, it's from cable subscriber fees and as long as they can keep forcing it on the basic sports tier, the money will keep coming in.

**MNCyGuy** · 11-20-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

The vast, vast majority of the money BTN makes isn't from ad dollars, it's from cable subscriber fees and as long as they can keep forcing it on the basic sports tier, the money will keep coming in.

It really does sound like a college sports pyramid scheme, doesn't it? And just like the idiot that got conned into being an Amway rep only to find that he's run out of other suckers to become owners and is stuck with a ****** product to push, the Big Ten is eventually going to run out of new markets to force the BTN on and will have to deal with the fact that it has an increasingly out-classed on-field product.

**SplitIdentity** · 11-20-2012, 01:46 PM

I dunno, I think four 16 team "super" conferences with four 4 team divisions would be OK. Bump up the season to a 14 game schedule, and have a 1-game play-off into the conference championship. The four mega conferences then receive auto bids into a 10 team playoff, with the four champions guaranteed a spot in the elite 8, while an at-large process selects from the remaining mega-conferences, as well as the non-mega conferences to fill up the other slots. The lowest two teams would play-in for a spot against the overall #1.

**MNCyGuy** · 11-20-2012, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

I dunno, I think four 16 team "super" conferences with four 4 team divisions would be OK. Bump up the season to a 14 game schedule, and have a 1-game play-off into the conference championship. The four mega conferences then receive auto bids into a 10 team playoff, with the four champions guaranteed a spot in the elite 8, while an at-large process selects from the remaining mega-conferences, as well as the non-mega conferences to fill up the other slots. The lowest two teams would play-in for a spot against the overall #1.

There would be an uproar if they tried to go to a 14 game regular season.

**Cyclone06** · 11-20-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

There would be an uproar if they tried to go to a 14 game regular season.

Exactly. We must think of the $tudents!

**HFCS** · 11-20-2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

I dunno, I think four 16 team "super" conferences with four 4 team divisions would be OK. Bump up the season to a 14 game schedule, and have a 1-game play-off into the conference championship. The four mega conferences then receive auto bids into a 10 team playoff, with the four champions guaranteed a spot in the elite 8, while an at-large process selects from the remaining mega-conferences, as well as the non-mega conferences to fill up the other slots. The lowest two teams would play-in for a spot against the overall #1.

I'm actually hoping for this setup. I'd prefer to just use the current BCS rankings, give the highest ranking non-AQ conference champ an auto bid, top 3 BCS ranked teams after those 5 champs get at large bids. Would be much better than what we have now. No truly title deserving team would ever be left out with the 3 at large picks, but you don't have to worry about it becoming the All Southern Football Playoff either which a selection committee picking 8 would honestly have to select this year outside of KSU and a Pac 12 team.

The Big Ten can have its TV money that way, but the SEC and Big 12 would be rewarded with the lion's share of the 3 at large bids since they play a different level of football.

**SCarolinaCy** · 11-20-2012, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by ISU_phoria

Didn't see this posted. Is the BIG selling their soul?

Could Boston College and Virginia be the next to join the Big Ten? - Land-Grant Holy Land

Rutgers brings 8,000+ fans to bolster BIG10. LOL

**CyFan61** · 11-20-2012, 06:52 PM

I don't see BC either, I would guess UVA and UNC. The Big Ten is all about adding contiguous states, Maryland seems like it's acting as the bridge between Pennsylvania and the big prizes in Virginia and North Carolina.

Question is, when B1G goes to sixteen does the SEC do the same? NC State and Virginia Tech would have to be the favorites, assuming UNC is off the board. VaTech is a no-brainer, and the SEC would have an easy choice to pick a North Carolina school (as they don't have one yet, and in the past they didn't want to add a school in a state that they already have). I would lean towards NC State but you can't ignore Duke's prestige as an academic institution and a basketball institution.

If the Big 12 wanted to join in... Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Duke or NC State, Louisville, Pittsburgh, maybe even Notre Dame would all be ripe for the plucking to get to sixteen. Just have to hold it together as the Pac-12 may come back to our area to steal Texas/Texas Tech/Oklahoma/Oklahoma State again. If we hold them off, their options are really limited. BYU, San Diego State, Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, Nevada... that's about it for them to choose from.

So much speculation, so little time

**Doc** · 11-20-2012, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by The_Architect

16 team Super Conferences are happening. Screw regional rivalries and screw the fans.

This sucks for everyone except the money hungry administrators.

'Merica.

**kberyldial** · 11-20-2012, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

The vast, vast majority of the money BTN makes isn't from ad dollars, it's from cable subscriber fees and as long as they can keep forcing it on the basic sports tier, the money will keep coming in.

Everything you say is true - until a single provider realizes that a pay for channel system is the demand and at that point the BTN takes it in the ***. At some point the demand will force some forward thinking provider to offer an across the board PPV cable/satellite channel option. It might still cost the same to the consumer but you will be able to "pick" the channels you decide to pay for. At that point the BTN's philosophy is flawed. It seems more likely than not that the change will eventually be, what you want versus what's forced on you. Everything about how technology is headed seems logical that it will go this way. So if there are 10 million people now with the BTN forced on them on the east coast perhaps only 3 million say yes to the BTN a la carte. I might be wrong. I'm just sickened by the conferences moves at this point.